GONG Monoaile / Monofoil modification
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GONG Monoaile / Monofoil modification
Bonjour,
et pardon d'écrire en anglais, mais mon français serait trop dommage.
Just wanted to share this small modification and tell:
GONG Monofoils work great and very easy for a monofoil.
Till now tried the 70 and 80 cm wing on 80 cm strut and the 65 wing arrived yesterday, will test this as well.
Just know: Cutting the aluminium of the fuselage with a padsaw is not so easy, I needed nearly two hours. But for the first try to see if you like it, you may Keep the fuselage in one peace the drag difference is not so big.
O and by the way the upwind (in orange), in far from perfect conditions, has been just great with the 70 cm Surf monofoil:
If you need more info, the Inventor of monofoiling is Phil from Horue.fr
http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=196&t=2393935
And here some different styles on monofoiling:
et pardon d'écrire en anglais, mais mon français serait trop dommage.
Just wanted to share this small modification and tell:
GONG Monofoils work great and very easy for a monofoil.
Till now tried the 70 and 80 cm wing on 80 cm strut and the 65 wing arrived yesterday, will test this as well.
Just know: Cutting the aluminium of the fuselage with a padsaw is not so easy, I needed nearly two hours. But for the first try to see if you like it, you may Keep the fuselage in one peace the drag difference is not so big.
O and by the way the upwind (in orange), in far from perfect conditions, has been just great with the 70 cm Surf monofoil:
If you need more info, the Inventor of monofoiling is Phil from Horue.fr
http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=196&t=2393935
And here some different styles on monofoiling:
Re: GONG Monoaile / Monofoil modification
I love your style! The video with the 3m sq. kite that you are piloting like a Revo is awesome.
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Re: GONG Monoaile / Monofoil modification
j'ai un pote en kitefoil qui ne jure plus que par ça surtout en vague. Il a enlevé son stab.
il gagne en mania mais est ce autant performant des qu'on prend de la vitesse?
il gagne en mania mais est ce autant performant des qu'on prend de la vitesse?
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Re: GONG Monoaile / Monofoil modification
Hi supthierry,
it is all not necessarily about top speed, ... for the big wings I still have to test this .. maybe also.
The main goal is much better glide, so less force and smaller kites,
and much higher flexibility.
The only way to understand monofoiling is to do it for some sessions and then go back to a normal foil with stabi which then will feel terrible draggy and way to stiff for turns.
Latest improvements to be even more flexibl, even less draggy and very low weight:
3,4 kg (Surf-M + 80 cm Strut)
with Alu & Wood 0-Fuselage
With board as shown: 5,9 kg
@Fred06: Thanks
it is all not necessarily about top speed, ... for the big wings I still have to test this .. maybe also.
The main goal is much better glide, so less force and smaller kites,
and much higher flexibility.
The only way to understand monofoiling is to do it for some sessions and then go back to a normal foil with stabi which then will feel terrible draggy and way to stiff for turns.
Latest improvements to be even more flexibl, even less draggy and very low weight:
3,4 kg (Surf-M + 80 cm Strut)
with Alu & Wood 0-Fuselage
With board as shown: 5,9 kg
@Fred06: Thanks
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Re: GONG Monoaile / Monofoil modification
bonjour,
Petite reflex...ion sur les monofoils :
Pour apporter un peu de stabilité, pourquoi ne pas utiliser un profil autostable ou "reflex" comme sur nos ailes volantes RC ou grandeur (Horten) ou en paramoteur / parapente ?
http://airfoiltools.com/airfoil/details?airfoil=e184-il
cela permet de se passer de l'empennage tout en gardant une stabilité en tangage ...
Petite reflex...ion sur les monofoils :
Pour apporter un peu de stabilité, pourquoi ne pas utiliser un profil autostable ou "reflex" comme sur nos ailes volantes RC ou grandeur (Horten) ou en paramoteur / parapente ?
http://airfoiltools.com/airfoil/details?airfoil=e184-il
cela permet de se passer de l'empennage tout en gardant une stabilité en tangage ...
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Re: GONG Monoaile / Monofoil modification
Hello,
c'est tout à fait faisable, d'autant plus qu'on utilise fréquemment ces profils en kite (en l'air).
La demande est ultra marginale pour les monofoils, donc on est sur des prototypes uniquement (depuis quelques années). En kite c'est cool, en surf c'est pas fou pour le moment.
Merci.
c'est tout à fait faisable, d'autant plus qu'on utilise fréquemment ces profils en kite (en l'air).
La demande est ultra marginale pour les monofoils, donc on est sur des prototypes uniquement (depuis quelques années). En kite c'est cool, en surf c'est pas fou pour le moment.
Merci.
GONG owner and shaper
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Re: GONG Monoaile / Monofoil modification
Hi Pi-Wi74,
as Ours said actually monofoiling is small for a own product, but on the end most normal big wings are good and after short easy enough for monofoiling.
But I would expect in one or two years with rising rider skills there will also monofoil dedicated wings in the market, good chance with reflex.
One wing with reflex I know, works good and is more stable as the builder said:
https://kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1 ... &start=162
And can be bought:
https://kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1 ... &start=218
He also said that it was stable enough for sit foiling, which would be a relevant step forward. Can't tell anything more, never tried a reflex foil wing. Just would expect the benefit comes from more stable pressure point, as the pitch up behaviour of a kite and paraglide reflex shouln't be to relevant, in the very different alway instable hydrofoil configuration.
as Ours said actually monofoiling is small for a own product, but on the end most normal big wings are good and after short easy enough for monofoiling.
But I would expect in one or two years with rising rider skills there will also monofoil dedicated wings in the market, good chance with reflex.
One wing with reflex I know, works good and is more stable as the builder said:
https://kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1 ... &start=162
And can be bought:
https://kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1 ... &start=218
He also said that it was stable enough for sit foiling, which would be a relevant step forward. Can't tell anything more, never tried a reflex foil wing. Just would expect the benefit comes from more stable pressure point, as the pitch up behaviour of a kite and paraglide reflex shouln't be to relevant, in the very different alway instable hydrofoil configuration.
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Re: GONG Monoaile / Monofoil modification
A very low aspect Monofoil:
2019: 7'3" Fatal 105L, Alley 7'8" 105L & 8'1" 120L, Zero 9'0" 115L
2022: Mob 7'6" cool 120L, Alleys custom 7'10" 112L & 8'1" 114L
2023: Karmen custom 7'11" 118L
Surf: 9'1" XTR proto glider
2022: Mob 7'6" cool 120L, Alleys custom 7'10" 112L & 8'1" 114L
2023: Karmen custom 7'11" 118L
Surf: 9'1" XTR proto glider